What is wrong with Laos ????

Date: Jul 6, 2010

RE: What is wrong with Laos ????

Date: Jul 6, 2010

This high definition done by a thai about Vietnam, it 's good quality video ( Vietnam in 2010 in high definition by Phrakanong ) Thailand.

Dark Angel · Guru

What is worng with Laos ? ? ? So my answer is nothing wrong with Laos. If your question is why Laos developped so slowly and still is the poorest country in south east Asia ? Yes, every body know the answer. No need to discuss any more as we all know that the intelligent leader and good government that makes the different such as Singapore and south Korea as the example that their leaders transformed their people from uneducated people to well educated people, from none skill workers to professional skill workers and turn their countries from poverty to the most modern countries . Well, Lao always do what Lao people do the best that is take it easy and relax and drinking Beerlao and take time to do every things.. So do you still wonder why are Vietnam and Cambodia ahead of Laos?.So no need to blame that Laos is the landlock country or was torn by the war and pointing finger to any one because south Korea and Singapore were also torn by the war and turn from the third world countries to the first world countries in only few decades after the war.Now Laos will witness Vietnam and Cambodia develop and Only few years Vietnam and Cambodia will be 80 to 100 years ahead of Laos. So just take it easy and relax and keep on drinking Beerlao and every things will be fine.

khonthakek · Guru

Dark Angel wrote:

What is worng with Laos ? ? ? So my answer is nothing wrong with Laos. If your question is why Laos developped so slowly and still is the poorest country in south east Asia ? Yes, every body know the answer. No need to discuss any more as we all know that the intelligent leader and good government that makes the different such as Singapore and south Korea as the example that their leaders transformed their people from uneducated people to well educated people, from none skill workers to professional skill workers and turn their countries from poverty to the most modern countries . Well, Lao always do what Lao people do the best that is take it easy and relax and drinking Beerlao and take time to do every things.. So do you still wonder why are Vietnam and Cambodia ahead of Laos?.So no need to blame that Laos is the landlock country or was torn by the war and pointing finger to any one because south Korea and Singapore were also torn by the war and turn from the third world countries to the first world countries in only few decades after the war.Now Laos will witness Vietnam and Cambodia develop and Only few years Vietnam and Cambodia will be 80 to 100 years ahead of Laos. So just take it easy and relax and keep on drinking Beerlao and every things will be fine.

i know what you understand Laotian well , because you are khonlao as well, the best way to do for us is to change a habit ? old habit dies hard ,man.. I am still thinking that, Laos will be developed as other developed countries as well, because now the World is opening to each other, Laos gets what the world gets even if it is not everything!!!for example, we can get the iphone and i think the ipad or iped very soon,so anyone no need to be worried about Cambodia and Vietnam lead or ahead us?

-we have a railway now... yeah,, we are later than Vietnamese and cambodian

-we have a big national stadium, yes.. we are not probably proud of it, but it belongs to us

-we have a supermaket or shoping mall at Morning market like other country, even if it started to build a few year ago.. but it finally built in vientiane

-we hosted the SEa game last year and maybe many people thought that laos wouldn;t host a big international event soon.. but we did it

- we have a high building that taller than 13 floors called don chanh hotel.. and i believe another tall buiding are on the way... wait to see!!!

-we building the 3rd friendship bridge in thakhek and the 4th one has just signed and will be built in the northern laos. is it too quick right??

-we have an Italian restaurant in vientiane, we have pizza shop and western food anywhere in Luangprabang, vangvieng, savanakhet ,paske and even in thakhek.

- we have more beer. the beerlao was only brand in the Laos market in the last few years, now we have tiger beer, we have carsaberg so on!!!

-people were complained about buying a car is expensive, but now.. you have a little money you can get a cheap car from china to drive and of course thank for chinese maker to produce the cheap motobike for lao people . so always every family get at least made in china motobike...

and many many will come to laos soon!!!!! just be slowly... the modern world will come to us anyway... haha

bigmouth · Veteran Member

khonthakek wrote:

i know what you understand Laotian well , because you are khonlao as well, the best way to do for us is to change a habit ? old habit dies hard ,man.. I am still thinking that, Laos will be developed as other developed countries as well, because now the World is opening to each other, Laos gets what the world gets even if it is not everything!!!for example, we can get the iphone and i think the ipad or iped very soon,so anyone no need to be worried about Cambodia and Vietnam lead or ahead us?
-we have a railway now... yeah,, we are later than Vietnamese and cambodian
-we have a big national stadium, yes.. we are not probably proud of it, but it belongs to us
-we have a supermaket or shoping mall at Morning market like other country, even if it started to build a few year ago.. but it finally built in vientiane
-we hosted the SEa game last year and maybe many people thought that laos wouldn;t host a big international event soon.. but we did it
- we have a high building that taller than 13 floors called don chanh hotel.. and i believe another tall buiding are on the way... wait to see!!!
-we building the 3rd friendship bridge in thakhek and the 4th one has just signed and will be built in the northern laos. is it too quick right??
-we have an Italian restaurant in vientiane, we have pizza shop and western food anywhere in Luangprabang, vangvieng, savanakhet ,paske and even in thakhek.
- we have more beer. the beerlao was only brand in the Laos market in the last few years, now we have tiger beer, we have carsaberg so on!!!
-people were complained about buying a car is expensive, but now.. you have a little money you can get a cheap car from china to drive and of course thank for chinese maker to produce the cheap motobike for lao people . so always every family get at least made in china motobike...

and many many will come to laos soon!!!!! just be slowly... the modern world will come to us anyway... haha

Sorry but I have to say that Laos hasn't got any mall . Do you know how big a mall is ? Mall is big enough for you to visit in three days .

Look at these mall in SEAsia metropolitan cities :

Hanoi The Manor mall:

Saigon Cresent Mall : largest mall in SEAsia

Manila Robinson Mall : second largest in SEAsia

Bangkok Mall

Singapore mall :

Jakarta Mall

I think it must take Cambodia and Laos 10-15 years to have a real Mall

khonthakek · Guru

Laos no need such as big mall. WHO WILL GO TO VISIT AND SHOPPING??? morning market is already big enough for Lao ppls.

bigmouth · Veteran Member

khonthakek wrote:

Laos no need such as big mall. WHO WILL GO TO VISIT AND SHOPPING??? morning market is already big enough for Lao ppls.

Yes , and that's a really sad reality .

They have a term : ASEAN six majors to describe 6 countries which stand out the most in South East Asian in term of economy : Singapore , Malaysia , Thailand , Indonesia , Philippines and Vietnam. The smallest economy in this group Vietnam is 16 times larger than Laos economy. Thailand is 30 times .

In 1980s-1990s 11 nations of ASEAN are all in the same standard , but now , Laos and Cambodia seem to be left far behind .

-- Edited by bigmouth on Tuesday 6th of July 2010 04:31:31 PM

Date: Jul 6, 2010

This youtube video showing Vincom HCM....it's nice.

Date: Jul 7, 2010

I am Lao and I don't want Vientiane be like Hochimin. Why do you think skyscrapers mean rich. They will only cause pollution.

Date: Jul 7, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

akaminnya wrote:

I noticed that everything in Vietnam are super expensive since when I had been in 2004... the cars in there are pretty high..a normal size car cost like about 20,000-40,000 USD that's why many people are riding scooters in VN today
These pictures would make you think different way . VN has many scooters and many cars too.
I wonder when will Laos has all these amount of cars
Saigon traffic:

I wish Laos, especially Vientiane capital city shows the world, that we are developed in other ways like we have good hospitals, many hight standard Universities, hight employment, well educated people and so on.

Unlike showing off the world that we are developed in high buildings, traffic jam on every single road.

If you ask me RE: What is wrong with Laos ????

My opinion is Lao people love to live in a house has a gate, front yard and back yard.
We don’t like hight buildings to live in.

bigmouth · Veteran Member

Anonymous wrote:

I wish Laos, especially Vientiane capital city shows the world, that we are developed in other ways like we have good hospitals, many hight standard Universities, hight employment, well educated people and so on.

Unlike showing off the world that we are developed in high buildings, traffic jam on every single road.

If you ask me RE: What is wrong with Laos ????
My opinion is Lao people love to live in a house has a gate, front yard and back yard.
We don’t like hight buildings to live in.

Laos have good hospitals many hight standard Universities, hight employment, well educated people ?

Ok , tell me which University in Laos can compete with these Universities in South East Asia ?

Bangkok University

Saigon National University

Saigon RMIT university

De La Salle College of St. Benilde - Manila

These are top 100 Universities in SEAsia , none of them from Laos

http://www.webometrics.info/top100_continent.asp?cont=SE_Asia

Do you really think that Laos universities are high standard ?

How about hospitals ? You think Laos hospitals are good ? Let's see how good hospitals are in other SEAsian countries .

FV hospital - Saigon

Bangkok hospital

images?q=tbn:HgewtAjiuIkf2M::&t=1&usg=__ztwdBu2PrvEOgVCeCnWr1JZF8CU=

Singapore hospital

Singapore_General_Hospital,_Nov_05.JPG

Vientiane can never show off those things for sure !

-- Edited by bigmouth on Wednesday 7th of July 2010 05:21:41 AM

Date: Jul 7, 2010

One day Laos will get there, just trust our leader and government don't worry , so relax and take it easy every thing will be fine.

Senoboyish · Veteran Member

This is Saigon Hi-tech zone . The only place in the world where producing Nano tube to make spacecraft shell surface for NASA .
We should learn from them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POa12JxNwjs

Dark Angel · Guru

The American go every where there are cheap labors such as Mexico, China , India and now Vietnam and Cambodia. As we know the American factories have been moving out of the United States for almost 50% to avoid the Union pay, work comp, medical insurance, pension And pay hight tax. No wonder a lot of the American lost their jobs at home in the US the American don't work in the cotton field and in the farm and factories and the hotel and pump gas and as cook and maid or washing the cars and cleanning toilets so the Mexican took over.

Date: Jul 8, 2010

Look at Lao's neighbour country Vietnam shopping center the Vincom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mzi8OuOBV0

Date: Aug 4, 2010

i am poud be laos

Date: Aug 4, 2010

RE: What is wrong with Laos ????

Date: Aug 27, 2010

Oh yeah, You just go and live in Vietnam instead, you snoby!! Who cares if any country has taller buildings. Have you ever thought about why those countries have to build very tall building, and what happens when the earthquake strike or those building collapes down? If you can figure it out, then you get what i mean.

Laos doesn't need taller buildings or bigger buildings. What we need are, nice and mordern infrastructures and advanced technologies to improve our living and safty. Not damed those buildings.

Think about it if we have trains, or nice, bigger and mordern high ways, and roads throughout the country, and paved, and organized. Clean and hyginic water lines, and sewages. If the gov can increase the salaries for its employees and help create more jobs, health care for Lao people, and insurance or other kind of those necessary things. Not those buildings...We don't need it. Do you know why China has to building those tall buildings for? They cost a lot of money and to sort out its population density.

Got it, you dumb head!!

laopeoplesarmy · Senior Member

Why do you gotta compare Laos to other? Those Countries you've mention are well established in commerces and transnational trades and plus they have the location. Laos has just emerges from centuries of warfares and geography isolation. Lao people are taught at such an early ages by the members of the Sangha and the Revolutionary forces that "money" a driving force behind market economy and wealth is a bad thing. We are taught to live a frugal and simple life.

The existing Malls in Laos are for the people of Laos. What we have now reflect the current demographic. What's the purpose for Laos to have a big gigantic mall while Laos lack the demographic to sustain it? The purpose of the Mall business is to make money. You have to look at the current situation on the ground and the demographic.

Republic of Korea has the American and Europeans monies and technical assistances pouring in to help them with their war recovery. While, Laos' only access to the world market at the time was severed when Thailand imposed an economy embargo on Laos shortly after Laos became a Republic. The world lending institution has long shunned Laos from accessing necessary funds to reconstructing a nation that was devasted by centuries of warfares.

bigmouth wrote:
Yes , and that's a really sad reality .
They have a term : ASEAN six majors to describe 6 countries which stand out the most in South East Asian in term of economy : Singapore , Malaysia , Thailand , Indonesia , Philippines and Vietnam. The smallest economy in this group Vietnam is 16 times larger than Laos economy. Thailand is 30 times .
In 1980s-1990s 11 nations of ASEAN are all in the same standard , but now , Laos and Cambodia seem to be left far behind .

-- Edited by bigmouth on Tuesday 6th of July 2010 04:31:31 PM

Date: Aug 27, 2010

Dark Angel wrote:

What is worng with Laos ? ? ? So my answer is nothing wrong with Laos. If your question is why Laos developped so slowly and still is the poorest country in south east Asia ? Yes, every body know the answer. No need to discuss any more as we all know that the intelligent leader and good government that makes the different such as Singapore and south Korea as the example that their leaders transformed their people from uneducated people to well educated people, from none skill workers to professional skill workers and turn their countries from poverty to the most modern countries . Well, Lao always do what Lao people do the best that is take it easy and relax and drinking Beerlao and take time to do every things.. So do you still wonder why are Vietnam and Cambodia ahead of Laos?.So no need to blame that Laos is the landlock country or was torn by the war and pointing finger to any one because south Korea and Singapore were also torn by the war and turn from the third world countries to the first world countries in only few decades after the war.Now Laos will witness Vietnam and Cambodia develop and Only few years Vietnam and Cambodia will be 80 to 100 years ahead of Laos. So just take it easy and relax and keep on drinking Beerlao and every things will be fine.

You got got right to the piont I love it when I see someone tell it like it is .

Date: Aug 27, 2010

There is nothing wrong with Laos you I D I O T!. The whole country of Laos population is 6.3 million and you want all Lao people to live in one city, just like the toiltet bowl they call Bangkok.

Laos has a large land compared to its population. Lao people can breath fresh air in the country why would they want to breath smog like in Bangkok.

Large building to house who?. Lao people do not like to live in tall building. Unlike the stupid Jek in Bangkok, they love living their high rise condos.

That is who you can tell the different between, Isann and Muslim south from the fake CHinese Thai or Jek Thai in Thailand.

Date: Aug 27, 2010

If you have not been to Laos lately, I suggest to go and see new hotels that are being built. Not for the Lao people but for foreign tourist.

What you stupid Jek wants to see is that everybody live like you to define happy life.
Lao people are happiest when they are at their own home in the country.

Vietnam has a population of 80 million. It need to house it people in Condos, or else their land would be all use up.

Thailand has a populaton of 67 millions. It need to house those people in Condos and apartment. Not enought land to go around.

Cambodia populaton 15 millions, the smallest country among the three. Its population are growing, so it need to house those people.

There you go You stupid Jek. Enjoy your smog condos and killing of Isann people.

Date: Aug 27, 2010

What is wrong with Laos? Laos is a very small country with small population but a lots of ordnance(bombies and other ammunition) very poor and slow development.

bigmouth · Veteran Member

Don't use Laos small population as an excuse .
You're right Laos doesn't need many buildings BUT look at Laos streets , highways ... they are so bad compared to Vietnam and Thailand .

khonthakek · Guru

Anonymous wrote:

ລາວຕາຍຍ້ອນກຽດ ວຽດຕາຍຍ້ອນປະຫຍັດ ....

i think it will no longer use!! now even Laotian die because of PA YAT!!

khmerwarrior · Veteran Member

Sorry but I have to say that Laos hasn't got any mall . Do you know how big a mall is ? Mall is big enough for you to visit in three days .
Look at these mall in SEAsia metropolitan cities :
Hanoi The Manor mall:

Saigon Cresent Mall : largest mall in SEAsia

Manila Robinson Mall : second largest in SEAsia
Bangkok Mall

Singapore mall :

Jakarta Mall

I think it must take Cambodia and Laos 10-15 years to have a real Mall

Cambodia already have malls and a another is on the way ^^

Any shopping Malls in Phnom Penh

Sorya shopping mall

Sovanna shopping mall

-- Edited by khmerwarrior on Monday 30th of August 2010 08:48:47 PM

-- Edited by khmerwarrior on Monday 30th of August 2010 08:51:04 PM

Date: Aug 31, 2010

Nothing is wrong with this country!!! If Vietnam is such a great and fast-developed, why I am seeing Vietnamese people running around this country every day....

Laos is just in its early stage of resource exploitation, and it is gonna take a while to see the result and to actually pour the revenue grenrated from these resources to develop a country.

Unlike Laos, if you guys look at the geographic locations of Vietnam and Singapore, they both have sea with advantgaes of import and export. Singapore has one of the bisggest ports in Asia (if not the biggest), so think about how dynamic the trade activities are in Singapore. Advatage of being bordered with the sea doesn't reflect only in economic activities such as fishery, trading, but also tourism. Of course, there is a threat of natural disastors, inevitably.

I must admit that Vietnamese are quite industrial, they are growing rice three seasons in a year, of course, with improved irrigation system and technology and huge population, so they are one of the main rice exportors in the world. Saving is also one of thier natures. They earn five and spend two... but we earn five and spend all, or even more...

Coming back to our country, if you guys look at our capital, you will see that lots of big building (both public and private) are being built, not higher than 24 meters though. But personally I love the way it is, I think the city should expand horizontally not vertically like in many countries, given our land is still aviable. Moreover, parks are being built, and some have been completed.

I think in three or five years time, when we can harvest some money from the investment on natural resources and use it transparently, we will see how fast our country can develop..... Hopefully...

Date: Sep 2, 2010

Congratulations to neighboring countries that have achieve such tremendous growth and development. But please, please don't let Laos follow suit!!! If she must grow, I hope she will grow slowly, steadily, modestly, and graciously.

I agree with many of the members who love and appreciate Laos for all that she is and for all that she is not. I love my home. I believe she should grow and develop…but not in the way a lot of people in this thread suggested. We don’t need any more big buildings, over grown malls, highways, super-highways, congestions, etc., to show growth.

The areas of growth I see for Laos are as follows: Increased Healthcare; Education; Jobs; Human Resource Development (especially for our young people); Housing; and Environmental and cultural preservation. I don’t believe we need oversized glass buildings, steel cages, and connective super highways to achieve these outcomes.

We don’t have to keep up with the Jones….we are Laos…we are a humbled people.

Date: Sep 2, 2010

Laos is a small coutry and has only 6 million people. If u see tall building and it means: so crowded. One city might have a lot of people and there are still a lot of land for lao people. As long we have peace and no shooting, no gang, no robbery,
no traffic jammed. It means peolpe can live peacefully and naturally....

Date: Sep 2, 2010

Because of Khon Lao always say BOR PEN YUNG = LAO LAZY ALL LIFE! That is why Laos has never developed country OK!

Date: Sep 3, 2010

nothing wrong with Laos , but something to " person" who's pic this TOPIC furious

Date: Sep 3, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

Congratulations to neighboring countries that have achieve such tremendous growth and development. But please, please don't let Laos follow suit!!! If she must grow, I hope she will grow slowly, steadily, modestly, and graciously.
I agree with many of the members who love and appreciate Laos for all that she is and for all that she is not.I love my home.I believe she should grow and develop…but not in the way a lot of people in this thread suggested.We don’t need any more big buildings, over grown malls, highways, super-highways, congestions, etc., to show growth.
The areas of growth I see for Laos are as follows:Increased Healthcare; Education; Jobs; Human Resource Development (especially for our young people); Housing; and Environmental and cultural preservation.I don’t believe we need oversized glass buildings, steel cages, and connective super highways to achieve these outcomes.
We don’t have to keep up with the Jones….we are Laos…we are a humbled people.

Being humble or step on?
Either way Lao are still underdiveloped!

Date: Sep 3, 2010

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ສະໄຫມ.

Date: Sep 3, 2010

I think some people just gets-off insulting others. If it makes you feel better to know that Laos is under-developed, then great. But it doesn't change the many great characteristics of our country and our people.

Date: Sep 3, 2010

you wander how and grow very faster than Lao, vietnam got money from to build all modernize city. you have to know that american had to repay vietnam trillion of dallars because of Vietnam war. Guyz, you have to hard to figure out. Vietnam was poorest than lao before. look at Vietnam' currency and Lao's currency who have more value and Lao'currency has more value than Vietnam.

Vonna · Newbie

Dumb ass your talking about being disappointed at Lao I think Lao should be disappointed at you for being Lao... I can't stand people like you..
I dont giva damn what peoples said about Lao I am proud my peoples for being who they are and not and not pretend to be something that they aren't...

Date: Sep 4, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

you wander how and grow very faster than Lao, vietnam got money from to build all modernize city. you have to know that american had to repay vietnam trillion of dallars because of Vietnam war. Guyz, you have to hard to figure out. Vietnam was poorest than lao before. look at Vietnam' currency and Lao's currency who have more value and Lao'currency has more value than Vietnam.

u can't use currency to compare the different between 2 economics in general. It depends on these situation: micro and macroeconomic, population, the way of government to control their country, man.

Actually, Vietnam's economic 's bigger than Laos's; but Laos has the smaller population than Vietnam, so it's not the matter at all.

It's different, man. 1000 Laos kip 's abt 2400 Vietnamese Đồng. Normal Vietnamese visitor can use 9 mil Vietnamese Đồng to travel abt 2 or 3 weeks in Laos, but u can't use 5 mil Laos kip to travel through Vietnam.

Date: Sep 4, 2010

Anonymous wrote:

you wander how and grow very faster than Lao, vietnam got money from to build all modernize city. you have to know that american had to repay vietnam trillion of dallars because of Vietnam war. Guyz, you have to hard to figure out. Vietnam was poorest than lao before. look at Vietnam' currency and Lao's currency who have more value and Lao'currency has more value than Vietnam.

Haha , this guy knows nothing about Economy .

1 Laos kip = 0.9 Hong Kong Dollar

Does that mean Laos is nearly as rich as Hong Kong ?

As the matter of fact , Vietnam has the economy which 16 times larger than Laos . Hochiminh city stock marker worth 28 billions USD . that means it's equal to 6 times of Laos whole country property .

Lao Isan · Senior Member

The problem is corruption and Communism. Laos was never free and didn't have opportunity to develop and modernized the country. Laos was alway under foreigner power control. Laos was under Thailand, French and now Vietnam since 1975. I don't think Vietnam want what is best for Laos. They has their own agenda like want Laos to part of Vietnam or they would have done more to help Laos in the past 30 year. Laos is still the least developing country and almost of Lao children are malnourish. In my opinion.

LinLing · Veteran Member

Everyone rather live and shop in Thailand,Vietnam and Cambodia. But Laos???? There is nothing there and living condition is very very poor among all of its neighbors. In the next 20 years, Laos will still be the same because most of the population left Laos for better education and living condition. Also, Lao people are not united anymore, not even Lao nork or Lao Nai can work together. Vietnam has its own people oversea who are working with there own people again and united stronger then ever. But what about Lao people?

old buff · Veteran Member

Why do you want Vientiane and other Lao cities to develop very fast with many tallest buidlings, traffic jams, crimes and cope with garbage problems like Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh, Hanoi and many big cities of the world?

Laoser · Senior Member

when will we learn to stop depending on other countries to help us? get off our lazy arse and do whats best mmkay blankstare

maribelle1226 · Senior Member

the population in laos is a little over 6 million, whereas the population in vietnam is over 90 million. we simply lack the manpower. anyways, we have no need for skyscrapers quite yet. we do not lack surface area nor have a dense population like some of our neighbors. we need to focus on how we can start generating some income first.

Laoser · Senior Member

blah blah b lah excuses blah blah

maribelle1226 · Senior Member

Laoser wrote:

blah blah b lah excuses blah blah

how old are you? 12?

khonthakek · Guru

maribelle1226 wrote:

Laoser wrote:

blah blah b lah excuses blah blah

how old are you? 12?

i think he is about 12-15, thats why the webmaster shouldn't allow under 18 here..

Laoser · Senior Member

maribelle1226 wrote:

Laoser wrote:

blah blah b lah excuses blah blah

how old are you? 12

when loa couldnt afford it they said they dont need it lol

NangDarling · Senior Member

maribelle1226 wrote:

Laoser wrote:

blah blah b lah excuses blah blah

how old are you? 12?

You know how they said old people turned into baby...just look at his pic. he is old....he is the thai original to give idea just watch Ongbak II. hehehee...sorry Laoser...can't help it.

SJCALSBM3 · Senior Member

Education! That is what is wrong with Laos needs more educated people to run the country not a 3rd grade educated.

Laoser · Senior Member

stop sending loa whores to our country!