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 As we have been heard from the news  most of the times from every part of the world that a lot  of the people from the middle east , Indonesia ,  Pakistan and also most of the Muslim and also from other nations as well who hate the America but they still try to come and prefer to live in the United States than their own countries. Why ?

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Why do you ask answers you already know the answer to?

Oh, yeah, to start controversy and argument. Learn how to respect other people's opinions.

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DEATHEP wrote:

Why do you ask answers you already know the answer to?

Oh, yeah, to start controversy and argument. Learn how to respect other people's opinions.



         just wonder if I am not sure that I might be wrong and there must be some reasons .

 



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DEATHEP wrote:

Why do you ask answers you already know the answer to?

Oh, yeah, to start controversy and argument. Learn how to respect other people's opinions.



        This is not to start controversy and argument topic nothing but curious and want to know the truth and study why ? and what ? when someone hate some body and some place but they still want to go there and live there that is the knowledge to know. If some people don't like some where and some people so they don't have to be there.

 



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 A lot of people like and love Russia and China and a lot of them don't want to go and live in Russia and China but they want to go and live in the United States where they hate and criticise the most specially the people from the middle east.

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wealth and money :)

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The ambivalent feeling towards the US I think is universal. Not everyone likes what they do, especially the way they influence other nations (ex. Iraq). But still people recognize that it is a land of opportunities for those who will work hard enough. This notion serves a magnet to attract people to take the risks and come to America. They probably realize that what they can earn in one year working in their homeland can be earned in one month when they are in the US. Of course there would be other individualized reasons, but the majority will likely related to what I previously stated. They are taking aside whatever hesitation or reservation that they have and use their common sense and be practical if they want to pursue their desire to make their life better and give their children better future and opportunities.

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The ambivalent feeling towards the US I think is universal. Not everyone likes what they do, especially the way they influence other nations (ex. Iraq). But still people recognize that it is a land of opportunities for those who will work hard enough. This notion serves a magnet to attract people to take the risks and come to America. They probably realize that what they can earn in one year working in their homeland can be earned in one month when they are in the US. Of course there would be other individualized reasons, but the majority will likely related to what I previously stated. They are taking aside whatever hesitation or reservation that they have and use their common sense and be practical if they want to pursue their desire to make their life better and give their children better future and opportunities.



         Not only the poor people but the rich as well would like to live in the US more than their own countries even they said that they hate the American. There are a few billionaires and multimillionaires from middle east have houses in Beverly hill . What you said for only the poor . 

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Saturday 30th of January 2010 05:33:33 PM

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opportunity , freedom, money, security all of these are the reasons why alots of peaple
want to come and live in USA eventhough they said they hate America.



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SKP wrote:

wealth and money :)



          Not only wealth and money but democracy and freedom.

 



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SKP wrote:

wealth and money :)



          Not only wealth and money but democracy and freedom.

 



yeahhh that's true!!!

 



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Dark Angel wrote:

2010 wrote:

The ambivalent feeling towards the US I think is universal. Not everyone likes what they do, especially the way they influence other nations (ex. Iraq). But still people recognize that it is a land of opportunities for those who will work hard enough. This notion serves a magnet to attract people to take the risks and come to America. They probably realize that what they can earn in one year working in their homeland can be earned in one month when they are in the US. Of course there would be other individualized reasons, but the majority will likely related to what I previously stated. They are taking aside whatever hesitation or reservation that they have and use their common sense and be practical if they want to pursue their desire to make their life better and give their children better future and opportunities.



         Not only the poor people but the rich as well would like to live in the US more than their own countries even they said that they hate the American. There are a few billionaires and multimillionaires from middle east have houses in Beverly hill . What you said for only the poor . 

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Saturday 30th of January 2010 05:33:33 PM


 No, it also applies to well off families. Remember I said they want better opportunities and  future for their children. That includes getting good education that may not be available in their respective countries. There is an advantage if their children will be exposed to western education and work experience because, whether you like it or not, many local companies have preference to individuals who have experience in developed/ developing countries believing that they would be able to  bring in new ideas that would make the company on a better footing, both financial and market wise, thus keep the company's competitive advantage.

As for those who are already multimillionaires, owning properties in the west would give them an advantage of spreading their wealth and putting them in a better position in case they wanted to put up a business there. Notice that they really dont stay permanently but once in a while still come back to their homeland, where most likely they also have established business or maybe because of other agenda. Moreover, it also adds to their prestige back home. There are still a lot of possible reasons; worst case scenarion is running away from crimes/ persecution.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts.

If you really want to know the real score why not do a study/ survey. Only then you will be able to get objetive answers, and get away with speculations.  



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2010 wrote:

The ambivalent feeling towards the US I think is universal. Not everyone likes what they do, especially the way they influence other nations (ex. Iraq). But still people recognize that it is a land of opportunities for those who will work hard enough. This notion serves a magnet to attract people to take the risks and come to America. They probably realize that what they can earn in one year working in their homeland can be earned in one month when they are in the US. Of course there would be other individualized reasons, but the majority will likely related to what I previously stated. They are taking aside whatever hesitation or reservation that they have and use their common sense and be practical if they want to pursue their desire to make their life better and give their children better future and opportunities.



         Not only the poor people but the rich as well would like to live in the US more than their own countries even they said that they hate the American. There are a few billionaires and multimillionaires from middle east have houses in Beverly hill . What you said for only the poor . 

-- Edited by Dark Angel on Saturday 30th of January 2010 05:33:33 PM


 No, it also applies to well off families. Remember I said they want better opportunities and  future for their children. That includes getting good education that may not be available in their respective countries. There is an advantage if their children will be exposed to western education and work experience because, whether you like it or not, many local companies have preference to individuals who have experience in developed/ developing countries believing that they would be able to  bring in new ideas that would make the company on a better footing, both financial and market wise, thus keep the company's competitive advantage.

As for those who are already multimillionaires, owning properties in the west would give them an advantage of spreading their wealth and putting them in a better position in case they wanted to put up a business there. Notice that they really dont stay permanently but once in a while still come back to their homeland, where most likely they also have established business or maybe because of other agenda. Moreover, it also adds to their prestige back home. There are still a lot of possible reasons; worst case scenarion is running away from crimes/ persecution.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts.

If you really want to know the real score why not do a study/ survey. Only then you will be able to get objetive answers, and get away with speculations.  



         Very well , bother BLM with smart answer again even though they would go back to their motherland but they still change their citizen to American citizen and still say that they hate American.

 



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Just wonder wrote:

 As we have been heard from the news  most of the times from every part of the world that a lot  of the people from the middle east , Indonesia ,  Pakistan and also most of the Muslim and also from other nations as well who hate the America but they still try to come and prefer to live in the United States than their own countries. Why ?



Sine you've already mention the MidleEast on your topic, Here's my answer. '' Refugees and the War,'' refugees are an issue frequently overlooked in the United States, one might even say ignored. Surprising, sine refugeeism is perhaps the biggest problem in the MidleEast. over seven something millions have lost their homes because of the war. and almost four million have been made homeless as result of the 2003 Bush and Congress-led war on irag. and another four million or more Palestinians who lost their land during the Arab-Israeli wars have been living in the Camps foe over forty years. Refugee camps typically start as tent camps and slowly become cheaply walled slums. They are breeding grouds for discontent, militants recruit in them, and militias hide in them. they are often under attack.Camps in Gaza and the WestBank are frequently bomed by the Israel, and extremly muslims militias. and a refugee camp in the Lebanon was the site of summerlong urban war between a Sunni guerrilla group and the Army in 2007. beyond the problem of how to get people out of them -sine they have no home to return to and are often restricted from getting job. the biggest question is to to stop creating situations that create millions of permanent refugee.... and by the way. only irreconcilable wing of Islam that hate America, regular muslims and moderate muslims don't hate America that's why you see a lot of moderate muslims here. and the irreconcible wing of islam believes in a strikingly different world than you and  i do. It's  adherent and suporters are irreconcible because they cannot peacefully coexist with the civilize world. they reject freedom of conscience and freedom of speech.they oppress women. they reject the legitimacy of any religion other than their own. for all these reasons and more , the goal of the irreconcilable  wing of islam is the destruction of the United States as we know it....

 



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Speak-out wrote:

Just wonder wrote:

 As we have been heard from the news  most of the times from every part of the world that a lot  of the people from the middle east , Indonesia ,  Pakistan and also most of the Muslim and also from other nations as well who hate the America but they still try to come and prefer to live in the United States than their own countries. Why ?



Sine you've already mention the MidleEast on your topic, Here's my answer. '' Refugees and the War,'' refugees are an issue frequently overlooked in the United States, one might even say ignored. Surprising, sine refugeeism is perhaps the biggest problem in the MidleEast. over seven something millions have lost their homes because of the war. and almost four million have been made homeless as result of the 2003 Bush and Congress-led war on irag. and another four million or more Palestinians who lost their land during the Arab-Israeli wars have been living in the Camps foe over forty years. Refugee camps typically start as tent camps and slowly become cheaply walled slums. They are breeding grouds for discontent, militants recruit in them, and militias hide in them. they are often under attack.Camps in Gaza and the WestBank are frequently bomed by the Israel, and extremly muslims militias. and a refugee camp in the Lebanon was the site of summerlong urban war between a Sunni guerrilla group and the Army in 2007. beyond the problem of how to get people out of them -sine they have no home to return to and are often restricted from getting job. the biggest question is to to stop creating situations that create millions of permanent refugee.... and by the way. only irreconcilable wing of Islam that hate America, regular muslims and moderate muslims don't hate America that's why you see a lot of moderate muslims here. and the irreconcible wing of islam believes in a strikingly different world than you and  i do. It's  adherent and suporters are irreconcible because they cannot peacefully coexist with the civilize world. they reject freedom of conscience and freedom of speech.they oppress women. they reject the legitimacy of any religion other than their own. for all these reasons and more , the goal of the irreconcilable  wing of islam is the destruction of the United States as we know it....

 



        That is right brother Speak out , those people hate the American deep in their blood even they are survive
         by the American food, medicine and money . They hate the American  more than they love their kids
        why do I say that because they cheer and proud and support their kids to become suicidal bombers.


         

 



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hate the American but love thier money and their women.



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Dark Angel wrote:

         Very well , bother BLM with smart answer again even though they would go back to their motherland but they still change their citizen to American citizen and still say that they hate American.

 



 Hey Angel, told you I am not  BLM he he. Maybe what you want to hear is his take on this. He might have different views.



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2010 wrote:

Dark Angel wrote:

         Very well , bother BLM with smart answer again even though they would go back to their motherland but they still change their citizen to American citizen and still say that they hate American.

 



 Hey Angel, told you I am not  BLM he he. Maybe what you want to hear is his take on this. He might have different views.



         Ok  You use  2010 like he does  sorry.

 



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Just wonder wrote:

As we have been heard from the news  most of the times from every part of the world that a lot  of the people from the middle east , Indonesia ,  Pakistan and also most of the Muslim and also from other nations as well who hate the America but they still try to come and prefer to live in the United States than their own countries. Why ?



Most people prefer to migrate to Australia, Canada, England, Scandinavia and some other European countries.  I'm sorry to say but the US is not on top of the list.

Your welfare / medicare systems and living conditions are no where near those countries.



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Just wonder wrote:

As we have been heard from the news  most of the times from every part of the world that a lot  of the people from the middle east , Indonesia ,  Pakistan and also most of the Muslim and also from other nations as well who hate the America but they still try to come and prefer to live in the United States than their own countries. Why ?



Most people prefer to migrate to Australia, Canada, England, Scandinavia and some other European countries.  I'm sorry to say but the US is not on top of the list.

Your welfare / medicare systems and living conditions are no where near those countries.



          That is good there are still 12 millions illigal immigrant in the US , and every year millions of illigal immigrant from all over the world try to smuggle in the US . So let them go to the other countries as you said so we don't have to pay for their welfare , school, medicare ...cte.

 



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DEATHEP wrote:

Why do you ask answers you already know the answer to?

Oh, yeah, to start controversy and argument. Learn how to respect other people's opinions.



         Deathep , if you could not discuss and give the opinion so just ignore it . The reason  why we are here to exchange the opinions and ideas , learn  some else beliief and try to understand.

 



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Most people prefer to migrate to Australia, Canada, England, Scandinavia and some other European countries.  I'm sorry to say but the US is not on top of the list.

Your welfare / medicare systems and living conditions are no where near those countries.



         Good luck, go where ever you please . Get out of the United States if you don't like it here and go where ever you love to be and no one will stop you. Go to live in China. China is the rich country and the second largest economy in the world where the medicare and living condition and welfare and food stamp are ready for you. There are too many illegal immigrant in the US and the tax payers have to pay for their welfare , medicare , school for their children by trillions and trillions for those programs.

 



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Just wonder wrote:

As we have been heard from the news  most of the times from every part of the world that a lot  of the people from the middle east , Indonesia ,  Pakistan and also most of the Muslim and also from other nations as well who hate the America but they still try to come and prefer to live in the United States than their own about welfarecountries. Why ?



Most people prefer to migrate to Australia, Canada, England, Scandinavia and some other European countries.  I'm sorry to say but the US is not on top of the list.

Your welfare / medicare systems and living conditions are no where near those countries.



Yes, you maybe right of what've said, Brother. sine  you already mention  about welfare and healthcare things.  so, we as an American do not supported or encourage our people to stay on the government assistant for the rest of their life ok. the geovernment jump in it because some of us lost our job and the government help out for a few month just to stand on our feet. some may stay alittle longer than expect,but, that the way it is here. and as for healthcare, we do not provide a free healthcare here as you called it(Universal healthcare) where you are living right now, and as for my self, i'm very happy with my provider. it' private health insurance, it' out of my own pocket, and i can go to any hospital i want it to. and can also change as many Doctors as i want if i don't like the doctor. and certainly not gonna happen in the countries where they provided a free healthcare, especially the government run healthcare. now you know why so many american people against the Obamacare, and as i've said it in my other comment, the poor of the world cannot be made rich by redistribution of wealth.poverty can't be eliminated by punishing people who've escaped poverty , taking their miney and giving it as reward to people who have failed to escape. economic leveling doesn't work that way. and last but not least, Yes, i've to admitted that, America still lack behind some countries in Europs in some category,But, over all i'm very satisfied with my life here. Economiclly, Socially, and Politiclly.

 



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Speak-out wrote:

 

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Just wonder wrote:

As we have been heard from the news  most of the times from every part of the world that a lot  of the people from the middle east , Indonesia ,  Pakistan and also most of the Muslim and also from other nations as well who hate the America but they still try to come and prefer to live in the United States than their own about welfarecountries. Why ?



Most people prefer to migrate to Australia, Canada, England, Scandinavia and some other European countries.  I'm sorry to say but the US is not on top of the list.

Your welfare / medicare systems and living conditions are no where near those countries.



Yes, you maybe right of what've said, Brother. sine  you already mention  about welfare and healthcare things.  so, we as an American do not supported or encourage our people to stay on the government assistant for the rest of their life ok. the geovernment jump in it because some of us lost our job and the government help out for a few month just to stand on our feet. some may stay alittle longer than expect,but, that the way it is here. and as for healthcare, we do not provide a free healthcare here as you called it(Universal healthcare) where you are living right now, and as for my self, i'm very happy with my provider. it' private health insurance, it' out of my own pocket, and i can go to any hospital i want it to. and can also change as many Doctors as i want if i don't like the doctor. and certainly not gonna happen in the countries where they provided a free healthcare, especially the government run healthcare. now you know why so many american people against the Obamacare, and as i've said it in my other comment, the poor of the world cannot be made rich by redistribution of wealth.poverty can't be eliminated by punishing people who've escaped poverty , taking their miney and giving it as reward to people who have failed to escape. economic leveling doesn't work that way. and last but not least, Yes, i've to admitted that, America still lack behind some countries in Europs in some category,But, over all i'm very satisfied with my life here. Economiclly, Socially, and Politiclly.

 

 




well said sir,well said.....

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Obama's plans do not seem too bad . The minimum wage is still better than other countries.( $7.75 per hour ) for earn the minimum wage with his medical plans.

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Obama's plans do not seem too bad . The minimum wage is still better than other countries.( $7.75 per hour ) for earn the minimum wage with his medical plans.




 The Major problem is Where the President gonna get all the money to pay for his healthcare plan????? Do you know what is the fiscal deficit of 2009-2010???



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Obama's plans do not seem too bad . The minimum wage is still better than other countries.( $7.75 per hour ) for earn the minimum wage with his medical plans.




 The Major problem is Where the President gonna get all the money to pay for his healthcare plan????? Do you know what is the fiscal deficit of 2009-2010???



        Very simple answer raise more tax  .

 



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If you hadn't gone to war in Irag you could have had your Universal Healthcare three times over.  And was it worth it?  The average Iraqi now turned around and hate your guts for it.  The Chinese company even won some oil contracts without spending a dime getting rid of Saddam.  What a thankless task.

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