The Vientiane administration will sell land use rights in the area of 450 Year Road for prices ranging from US$34 to US$44 per square metre to finance construction and development in the area.
Mayor of Vientiane Sombath Yialiher made the announcement at a press conference yesterday after he signed an agreement this week on funding the cost of developing rice fields into the capital's largest highway and a new urban centre.
He said the authorities had set aside a 50 metre wide sect ion of land for development alongside the road, which is under construction from the Dongdok junction to Thadeua village. The value of this l and will be determined by dividing overall development costs, including road construction, land compensation and loan interest, by the value of the land set aside.
Vientiane authorities plan to invest about US$64 million in the 33 metre wide road, which has 1.8 million square metres along either side of the 20km road for use as residential areas, business and industry.
Mr Sombath said the authorities will allow former land occupiers to purchase the developed land at the set price first, adding that if they fail to reach a deal, the authorities would sell the land to raise money for development projects.
He said the government had selected certain areas for government development projects, adding former land occupiers could not purchase developed land.
Mr Sombath said the 450 Year Road construction project was a pilot project by the government to turn land into capital to finance basic development projects around the country, adding that many other countries used a similar approach.
He said the government had the right to retake land from occupiers as it was the property of the Lao national family, as stated in Article 17 of the Lao Constitution and Article 3 of the Law on Land, which give the government the right to regulate land.
The move is intended to increase the value of land and make use of it as part of efforts to protect natural resources and increase infrastructure development in Laos .
The new road will offer alternatives for truck drivers coming from the northern provinces , allowing them to by-pass Vientiane on their way to the Lao-Thai border at the Vientiane-Nong Khai Friendship Bridge . This would help to reduce traffic congestion in the city centre.
Mr Sombath also said development would create opportunities for people living in the area to access roads and other basic infrastructure. This area, which is farmland and rice fields, would not be developed otherwise.
The government has set a budget of 79 billion kip to compensate people in the three districts of Xaythany, Xaysettha and Hadxaifong who will have to give up their land for development.
He said the price of land before development was not more than 50,000 kip per square metre.
i hope this is well worth the costs of the farmers who use to own that land, and i do hope they have thought about this for long term rather then short term benfits.
how much will they compensate for former land owners who will be unable to pay this high price to get back their land?
My family is in this situation: They just invested in a tractor to grow rice on their land, just before the road construction started, and now, they lose a big part of their land! Autorities took the land they need to live, and now? What can they do? of course they are unable to pay so high price to get back their land! How can they get any return on investment if they have no land where they can work? Will the compensation be enough to buy new land/ricefields in the same village? I'm affraid not! Price for land is growing very fast in this part of the country, because there are many projects there... not only this road (train station, commercial zone, luxury golf... don't forget this zone is just the lao/thai border/bridge)!
It would have been fair to share the benefits from the "land value rising" between goverment and the former owners, to be sure that everyone benefit from this project (no one lose)! Seems the government want all the benefits for themselves, so people who live there can just try to find another place to live, farther from vientiane if now they are not rich enough to stay there, not too far from VT, but just where they always lived and bought land!
-- Edited by paris_vientiane on Tuesday 16th of June 2009 06:50:50 PM
Is that the name of the road? 450 year road???? Does anyone seen the master plan for this project? layouts??
"He said the government had the right to retake land from occupiers as it was the property of the Lao national family, as stated in Article 17 of the Lao Constitution and Article 3 of the Law on Land, which give the government the right to regulate land."
This is what I fear the most being a land owner in Laos. The government can suddenly take your land away from you just like that.
The Government Can Take Your House and Land, Then Sell Them to Private Corporations
Supreme Court says govt can take away your land
The federal government issued an ultimatum yesterday to people who own land designated for the Flight 93 memorial in Western Pennsylvania: They have one week to reach an agreement on the sale of their land or the government will initiate proceedings to seize it. The order came hours after Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter (D., Pa.) met with people who own 500 acres in and around the Shanksville area, where Flight 93 crashed on Sept. 11, 2001, and with victims' relatives eager to see the memorial built in time for the 10th anniversary of the terrorist attacks.
"After meeting with the landowners and the Park Service today, I have high hopes that the parties are close to agreement and will be able to reach consensus over the land in the next week so we can keep the memorial on track without using eminent domain," Salazar said. "Only if the parties are not able to reach agreement will we have to use the last resort of eminent domain to acquire land.
Some of these people have never been approached regarding the situation. Some of this land has belonged to families for generations and just happens to be near the site. This is farm land, and the owners should have the right to decide, not the government. This aquisition is not for the betterment or safety of the people. It's for a 500 acre monument!
What do you think about this??
paris_vientiane wrote:
how much will they compensate for former land owners who will be unable to pay this high price to get back their land?
My family is in this situation: They just invested in a tractor to grow rice on their land, just before the road construction started, and now, they lose a big part of their land! Autorities took the land they need to live, and now? What can they do? of course they are unable to pay so high price to get back their land! How can they get any return on investment if they have no land where they can work? Will the compensation be enough to buy new land/ricefields in the same village? I'm affraid not! Price for land is growing very fast in this part of the country, because there are many projects there... not only this road (train station, commercial zone, luxury golf... don't forget this zone is just the lao/thai border/bridge)!
It would have been fair to share the benefits from the "land value rising" between goverment and the former owners, to be sure that everyone benefit from this project (no one lose)! Seems the government want all the benefits for themselves, so people who live there can just try to find another place to live, farther from vientiane if now they are not rich enough to stay there, not too far from VT, but just where they always lived and bought land!
-- Edited by paris_vientiane on Tuesday 16th of June 2009 06:50:50 PM
The Government Can Take Your House and Land Then Sell Them to Private Corporations
December 29th 2006
It’s not an issue that gets much attention, but the government has the right to seize your house, business, and/or land, forcing you into the street. This mighty power, called "eminent domain," is enshrined in the US Constitution's Fifth Amendment: "...nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation." Every single state constitution also stipulates that a person whose property is taken must be justly compensated and that the property must be put to public use. This should mean that if your house is smack-dab in the middle of a proposed highway, the government can take it, pay you market value, and build the highway.
Whether or not this is a power the government should have is very much open to question, but what makes it worse is the abuse of this supposedly limited power. Across the country, local governments are stealing their citizens' property, then turning around and selling it to corporations for the construction of malls, condominiums, parking lots, racetracks, office complexes, factories, etc.
The Institute for Justice — the country's only nonprofit, public-interest law firm with a libertarian philosophy — spends a good deal of time protecting individuals and small businesses from greedy corporations and their partners in crime: bureaucrats armed with eminent domain. In 2003, it released a report on the use of "governmental condemnation" (another name for eminent domain) for private gain. No central data collection for this trend exists, and only one state
(Connecticut) keeps statistics on it. Using court records, media accounts, and information from involved parties, the Institute I found over 10,000 such abuses in 41 states from 1998 through 2002. Of these, the legal I process had been initiated against 3,722 properties, and condemnation had been threatened against 6,560 properties. (Remember, this is condemnation solely for the benefit of private parties, not for so-called legitimate reasons of "public use.") In one instance, the city of Hurst, Texas, condemned 127 homes so that a mall could expand. Most of the families moved under the pressure, but ten chose to stay and fight. The Institute writes:
A Texas trial judge refused to stay the condemnations while the suit was on-going, so the residents lost their homes. Leonard Prohs had to move while his wife was in the hospital with brain cancer. She died only five days after their house was demolished. Phyllis Duval's husband also was in the hospital with cancer at the time they were required to move. He died one month after the demolition. Of the ten couples, three spouses died and four others suffered heart attacks during the dispute and litigation. In court, the owners presented evidence that the land surveyor who designed the roads for the mall had been told to change the path of one road to run through eight of the houses of the owners challenging the condemnations.
In another case, wanting to "redevelop" Main Street, the city of East Hartford, Connecticut, used eminent domain to threaten a bakery/deli that had been in that spot for 93 years, owned and operated by the same family during that whole time. Thus coerced, the family sold the business for $1.75 million, and the local landmark was destroyed. But the redevelopment fell through, so the lot now stands empty and the city is in debt. The city of Cypress, California, wanted Costco to build a retail store on an 18-acre plot of land. Trouble was, the Cottonwood Christian Center already owned the land fair and square, and was planning to build a church on it. The city council used eminent domain to seize the land, saying that the new church would be a "public nuisance" and would "blight" the area (which is right beside a horse-racing track).
The Christian Center got a federal injunction to stop the condemnation, and the city appealed this decision. To avoid further protracted legal nightmares, the church group consented to trade its land for another tract in the vicinity.
But all of this is small potatoes compared to what's going on in Riviera Beach, Florida: City Council members voted unanimously to approve a $1.25 billion redevelopment plan with the authority to use eminent domain to condemn at least 1,700 houses and apartments and dislocate 5,100 people. The city will then take the property and sell the land to commercial yachting, shipping, and tourism companies. If approved by the state, it will be one of the biggest eminent domain seizures in US history. In 1795, the Supreme Court referred to eminent domain as "the despotic power." Over two centuries later, they continue to be proven right.
SeeHarHed wrote:
Is that the name of the road? 450 year road???? Does anyone seen the master plan for this project? layouts??
"He said the government had the right to retake land from occupiers as it was the property of the Lao national family, as stated in Article 17 of the Lao Constitution and Article 3 of the Law on Land, which give the government the right to regulate land."
This is what I fear the most being a land owner in Laos. The government can suddenly take your land away from you just like that.
The power of governments to take private real or personal property has always existed in the United States, being a part of the common law inherited from England. This power reposes in the legislative branch of the government and may not be exercised unless the legislature has authorized its use by statutes that specify who may use it and for what purposes. The legislature may so delegate the power to private entities like public utilities or railroads, and even to individuals for the purpose of acquiring access to their landlocked land. Its use was limited by the Takings Clause in the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in 1791, which reads, "...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation". The Fifth Amendment did not create the national government's right to use the eminent domain power, it simply limited it to public use
SeeHarHed wrote:
Is that the name of the road? 450 year road???? Does anyone seen the master plan for this project? layouts??
"He said the government had the right to retake land from occupiers as it was the property of the Lao national family, as stated in Article 17 of the Lao Constitution and Article 3 of the Law on Land, which give the government the right to regulate land."
This is what I fear the most being a land owner in Laos. The government can suddenly take your land away from you just like that.
If you own a land, and the goverment have an important road project that passes trough your land, of course, we can understand that the goverment force you to sell your land. But nothing can justify the price for this to be lower than the real value of the land: if the goverment take you 5000m2, they should at least give you enough money to buy 5000m2 of land of equivalent quality in the same village (no 30km farther, where no-one live or just far from every commodities)
Moreover, forcing you to sell your land at low price, just to sell it once again to another person at high price and get lot of benefits, leaving you in the ****.... is this acceptable? Don't forget we are not only talking about the land necessary for the road, but also the land around the future road (where you can grow rice, build houses, make business...everything for private use)!!!!!
At least, if the goverment get big benefit from this project (taking more land than what is precisely necessary to build the road, 50m each side), they should share the benefits with the previous owners. Don't you think?
-- Edited by paris_vientiane on Wednesday 17th of June 2009 01:39:27 PM