We have been witnessing South Korea and Singapore changed and developed so quick after the war . Also we could see Japan and Germany changed and developed after the war. Is it the only way education that science and technology which are the back bone to get the people of south Korean , Germany and Japan out of poverty? But it is too bad and so sad that Lao government spend so little money on the Education which is the key to get Lao people out of poverty. Also we see China economy is improving since open the trade with the United States and the West . Chinese are the world factories with the cheap labors . Upper Austria is the land lock country just like Laos but Upper Austria is the brain and the world leader of technology . What would Laos be in the next decade ? What would Laos look like in the year 2020 which Lao government promised the Lao people that Lao will be out of poverty ?
Is it possible that Laos could be out of poverty by the year 2020 ? ( Science and economy , Brain and mind ).
-- Edited by Dark Angel on Friday 13th of April 2012 01:33:04 PM
Selling natural resources of the country to live and to survive and depending on foreign aid so the country is never going to be economical success .It doesn't matter how much the country have natural resources or tons of gold big jungle of wood , some day the wood and the gold and other natural resource will be gone.Education is the key. The Lao leader must invest on the Lao people educate the Lao people and turn them to be the workers of the future. Only the Lao people become well educated and skill workers .Brain and mind are every thing .Some countries don't have any natural resource and not even land to grow food and water to drink but they have the leader well educated and intelligent president who could educate their people to become the skill workers which lead to the foreign companies and corporations investors to invest in their country and turn their country from poor to rich. The smart leader and government does make a lot of the different than the leader are not well educated and corrupted government.
Selling natural resources of the country to live and to survive and depending on foreign aid so the country is never going to be economical success .It doesn't matter how much the country have natural resources or tons of gold big jungle of wood , some day the wood and the gold and other natural resource will be gone.Education is the key. The Lao leader must invest on the Lao people educate the Lao people and turn them to be the workers of the future. Only the Lao people become well educated and skill workers .Brain and mind are every thing .Some countries don't have any natural resource and not even land to grow food and water to drink but they have the leader well educated and intelligent president who could educate their people to become the skill workers which lead to the foreign companies and corporations investors to invest in their country and turn their country from poor to rich. The smart leader and government does make a lot of the different than the leader are not well educated and corrupted government.
Laos will still be poor and stupid just like it is now. Wishing to be like other countries but not knowing how to be individual.
Everyone knows that Lao gov't doesn't care about the people, they drive around their mercedes and live in mansions. They aren't poor.
You idiots keep asking the same stupid things on this board:
"why can't laos be like other countries...."
"when will laos be developed and what will it take...."
If you look at other countries, they have a democratic gov't that is elected by the people, for the people. They serve the people and are not above the law. Each of these countries has a constitution and lives by it. So your answer is simple; create a new gov't or keep living under tyranny.
Laos will still be poor and stupid just like it is now. Wishing to be like other countries but not knowing how to be individual.
Everyone knows that Lao gov't doesn't care about the people, they drive around their mercedes and live in mansions. They aren't poor.
You idiots keep asking the same stupid things on this board:
"why can't laos be like other countries...."
"when will laos be developed and what will it take...."
If you look at other countries, they have a democratic gov't that is elected by the people, for the people. They serve the people and are not above the law. Each of these countries has a constitution and lives by it. So your answer is simple; create a new gov't or keep living under tyranny.
This is not Lao Nork's English . You must be Lao Nai and living in Laos or Thailand . So you write in Lao or Thai for better understanding. Your English is suck.
Laos will still be poor and stupid just like it is now. Wishing to be like other countries but not knowing how to be individual.
Everyone knows that Lao gov't doesn't care about the people, they drive around their mercedes and live in mansions. They aren't poor.
You idiots keep asking the same stupid things on this board:
"why can't laos be like other countries...."
"when will laos be developed and what will it take...."
If you look at other countries, they have a democratic gov't that is elected by the people, for the people. They serve the people and are not above the law. Each of these countries has a constitution and lives by it. So your answer is simple; create a new gov't or keep living under tyranny.
This is not Lao Nork's English . You must be Lao Nai and living in Laos or Thailand . So you write in Lao or Thai for better understanding. Your English is suck.
Laos will still be poor and stupid just like it is now. Wishing to be like other countries but not knowing how to be individual.
Everyone knows that Lao gov't doesn't care about the people, they drive around their mercedes and live in mansions. They aren't poor.
You idiots keep asking the same stupid things on this board:
"why can't laos be like other countries...."
"when will laos be developed and what will it take...."
If you look at other countries, they have a democratic gov't that is elected by the people, for the people. They serve the people and are not above the law. Each of these countries has a constitution and lives by it. So your answer is simple; create a new gov't or keep living under tyranny.
This is not Lao Nork's English . You must be Lao Nai and living in Laos or Thailand . So you write in Lao or Thai for better understanding. Your English is suck.
Laos will still be poor and stupid just like it is now. Wishing to be like other countries but not knowing how to be individual.
Everyone knows that Lao gov't doesn't care about the people, they drive around their mercedes and live in mansions. They aren't poor.
You idiots keep asking the same stupid things on this board:
"why can't laos be like other countries...."
"when will laos be developed and what will it take...."
If you look at other countries, they have a democratic gov't that is elected by the people, for the people. They serve the people and are not above the law. Each of these countries has a constitution and lives by it. So your answer is simple; create a new gov't or keep living under tyranny.
This is not Lao Nork's English . You must be Lao Nai and living in Laos or Thailand . So you write in Lao or Thai for better understanding. Your English is suck.
2020? just 8 years away, what do you expect as significant changes? Not much from today. We will have less forests to cut and maybe some more mines to explore. A few more dams. Bigger traffic in Vientiane and other big cities. Some improvements in growth development and income, and maybe human development index. But corruption as usual.
I share your concerns about future education of Lao people. A communist country like Vietnam and China really focuses on higher education of their young, which they consider the future of their country competitiveness in the world economy. Accordingly, I would hope the Lao government pays more attention to the qualifty of education of young Lao people. Laos is very far behind the Chinese and Viets in this regard and will not be able to compete with foreigners for good jobs in our own soil. Counting on money sent home by young Lao working as cheap labor in Thailand would give a sad future for Laos.
Education is the key . Invest on the young Lao kids . Stop teaching hatred and propaganda and start teaching real education and skill for the future. Look at Singaporean and South Korean people . Singapore does not have any natural resource and south Korea also does not have much nature resource compare to Laos . Laos is rich with wood and natural resources but Laos is still the poorest and underdeveloped country .
Lol you act as if that phony french and usa puppet govs before pathet lao revolution were democratic too? get real. 95% of laos was rural farming while everyone watched fat asses sit on thrones. and their asses being pampered by the french then the americans.
remember when usa ruined the lao kip value too
Partly as a result of corruption in the distribution of international aid, and partly because of the venal and unreliable character of many Lao politicians, Suvannaphūmā's government soon ran into difficulties. The U.S. and other aid donors insisted on currency reform to stem the runaway inflation which they themselves had caused by pumping money into such an underdeveloped economy. Suvannaphūmā resisted, fearing the effect that devaluation would have on the Lao people. Finally in August 1958 the U.S. suspended aid payments, which the anti-coalition and opportunist forces in the Assembly took as a signal to bring down Suvannaphūmā.
The early 1950s saw continuing instability in the Lao government in Viang Chan. The influx of French forces, accompanied by much French and American aid money, fuelled an economic boom, accompanied by high inflation, in the towns, but this did little to benefit the peasant majority. The diversion of funds to military purposes retarded development of fields like health and education. The government remained weak and faction-ridden, and also increasingly corrupt as leading politicians found ways for themselves and their relatives to profit from the foreign money pouring into the country
brainwashed right wing american lao morons on this board are embarassing.
So basically you were alright with your version of laos with the corruption everything prostitution in all its glory as long as your right wing puppetlords were in power right and your small minority got its cut? How delusional.
maybe laos would be a mini siam today if the whites controlled it still right? ah gotta love that loss of culture a dumbass sitting on a throne and the millions of poor isaan workers who get nothing from democracy. amerikkkan military bases full of horny whites ready to fuk your women ah democracy i love it so much.
Still kissing ass to the white man while to this day you havent figured out the white man cared nothing about any lao or se asian for that matter. if innocents died in the war then who cares. they indiscriminately bombed lao villages to hell but oh thats ok right its for FREEDOM! yea white man bring freedom to laos vietnam and cambodia when your army units in vietnam were segregated :)) and public toilets were white only everyone else crap somewhere else. aw man its just so hilarious. it was an ideological war dmbass again usa didnt care about any asians. they were there to stop the fake threat of the red tide ruining all their little power centers. yea vietnam reuniting its country really resulted in the world becoming communist lol who bought that fairy tale.
but you know right wing puppet lao in amerikkka keep bowing to your master the white man even tho he didntt gave 2 ****s about u.
who are you arguing with idiot. you sound like you got fukked in the asss by a white guy. Sorry that a white guy fukked your slut of a mom and made you and you became that way.
I don't give a ****k about whites and their freedom. you must be talking to someone else on here. you are so stupid to assume that just because people don't like commies that we worship white people? you ****king that dumb? democracy isn't about white people or asian, get your head out of your asss unless you really like that shiet.
you're whore of a mom must have ****ked some viets too cause you like eating dogs so much that you now bark like one. let the viets ****k laos and rape their women and children, aaahhhh got to love the loss of the pooor dumb ass laos culture cause of stupids like you. maybe vientiane will be called vietiane in the future and even the chinese want a piece of that asss.
let the commies kill over 2 million cambodians right? let them kill off people like flies all for the sake of communism right? keep talking and show people your ignorance if you can take your own dik out of your mouth.
by the way, don't you just love how you can say anything you want cause of the freedom of speech that you can't have in Laos and most commie states cause they would kill you if you actually spoke the truth. yeah I said FREEDOM BIATCH. go back to your dictators censoring and spoon feeding you. say hi to your bald white father for me.
i know exactly what kind of person you are though. I bet you have the "democratic and free " three headed elephant flag and blindly act like that laos was somehow more free then what "commie" laos is. You still have a problem figuring out Laos was never a democracy. Not under royal powers not under french powers not under american powers and now the communist party. Why just call out the communists but conveniently go over tthe inadequacies of laos prior to the revolution. They at least had a pair to fight usa not just oh welcome usa give us those usa dorras.
At least the revolution showed a light to the people who were that 95% rural farmers. The pathet lao had their units made up with lao theung and the poor minority because this was their chance to make a change in the nation they called home. the royal family of laos or the french/usa backed puppet govs never reached out to the poor. Certain People in the city with connections had it made. Hm sounds like something you complain about all the time. Even freaking Souphanouvong saw how the royal family was basically a door mat. Whoever stuffed money in their face the most thats who they bowed to.
But somehow now Lao PDR can come under fire for inadequate government. I dont really understand it but hey your a rightist white puppet lao in usa so your mindset is basically "commies"= bad american version of corrupt democracy= good. good luck with that.
again what the hell are you smoking? numerous reporters both west and east wrote how vientiane was basically lawless under american aid times. prostitution gambling drug use was normal. this was the destruction of lao culture. not today. laos has held its culture regardles of vietnamese prescense. last time i checked people still spoke lao eat lao live lao. vietnam if anything only effects the government structure .
lets see some one who has adopted a more western approach. ah i know siam. siam the beacon for democracy cleary shows it has morals and good taste right?clearly shows it cares for its poor regions.the capitalist system is the way to success!
The 1960s and early 1970s was a period of turbulence and traumatic change in Laos. A Lao revolutionary writer once described the society of Vientiane during these years as a "bastardized version of American culture" with its "whore-houses and dance halls" (Bo et al. 1987: 398--99), while the travel writer Paul Theroux described it in not dissimilar terms as "one of America’s expensive practical jokes, a motiveless place where nothing was made, everything imported" (Theroux 1977: 234). For its survival, the Royal Lao government depended on a massive dose of American financial aid. Corruption was rampant, and a few prominent families enjoyed conspicuous wealth while the majority of people lived in poverty. In a capital the size of Vientiane, the large American military presence was highly visible, accompanied by prostitution, drugs, and organized crime. Vientiane society was not only starkly at odds with the rest of the country but also with traditional culture.
yes the american way we are free
lol your a dumbass bro freedom of speech is nothing so you hold this right of being able to bark like a dog to your american masters and something thats good? bark bark bark im using my freedom of speech im proud to be merikkkan yo!
again what the hell are you smoking? numerous reporters both west and east wrote how vientiane was basically lawless under american aid times. prostitution gambling drug use was normal. this was the destruction of lao culture. not today. laos has held its culture regardles of vietnamese prescense. last time i checked people still spoke lao eat lao live lao. vietnam if anything only effects the government structure .
lets see some one who has adopted a more western approach. ah i know siam. siam the beacon for democracy cleary shows it has morals and good taste right?clearly shows it cares for its poor regions.the capitalist system is the way to success!
The 1960s and early 1970s was a period of turbulence and traumatic change in Laos. A Lao revolutionary writer once described the society of Vientiane during these years as a "bastardized version of American culture" with its "whore-houses and dance halls" (Bo et al. 1987: 398--99), while the travel writer Paul Theroux described it in not dissimilar terms as "one of America’s expensive practical jokes, a motiveless place where nothing was made, everything imported" (Theroux 1977: 234). For its survival, the Royal Lao government depended on a massive dose of American financial aid. Corruption was rampant, and a few prominent families enjoyed conspicuous wealth while the majority of people lived in poverty. In a capital the size of Vientiane, the large American military presence was highly visible, accompanied by prostitution, drugs, and organized crime. Vientiane society was not only starkly at odds with the rest of the country but also with traditional culture.
yes the american way we are free
lol your a dumbass bro freedom of speech is nothing so you hold this right of being able to bark like a dog to your american masters and something thats good? bark bark bark im using my freedom of speech im proud to be merikkkan yo!
I dont know where your trying to pass that fake garbage off at but every time i visited vientiane the only place I saw ho chi minh was in a vietnamese restaurant. Actually I can tell you which one its called Noudle right by boss phone .I never saw a lao business with ho chi minhs poster in it, if the business wasnt vietnamese.
You just try to stir up lao people outside of the usa and make them think crap
I dont know where your trying to pass that fake garbage off at but every time i visited vientiane the only place I saw ho chi minh was in a vietnamese restaurant. Actually I can tell you which one its called Noudle right by boss phone .I never saw a lao business with ho chi minhs poster in it, if the business wasnt vietnamese.
You just try to stir up lao people outside of the usa and make them think crap
A lot of his statutes were built in Laos and a lot of school and Lao student and young Lao kid be taught that he is Lao Hero and Lyce Somboung will change the name to honor your master Uncle Ho.
ho chi minh should be looked up to if anything for someone who rejected france and usa.Not just sitting on their ass getting kickbacks like the lao viet and khmer royal families. Laos was backwards back then while the French catered to the royal families probably even worse then it is today. Tell me that is not true. Tell me that se asia was about 80% farmers during this time where was the support for the minorities or working class during french and usa puppet times.
I dont agree any ho chi minh monuments should replace lao or khmer heroes etc first. only after that i think its fine though i dont see the problem.
what were we going to do have a french king statue in laos and cambodia for "modernizing" indochina? get real lol.
ho chi minh should be looked up to if anything for someone who rejected france and usa.Not just sitting on their ass getting kickbacks like the lao viet and khmer royal families. Laos was backwards back then while the French catered to the royal families probably even worse then it is today. Tell me that is not true. Tell me that se asia was about 80% farmers during this time where was the support for the minorities or working class during french and usa puppet times.
I don't agree any ho chi minh monuments should replace lao or khmer heroes etc first. only after that i think its fine though i don't see the problem.
what were we going to do have a french king statue in laos and cambodia for "modernizing" indochina? get real lol.
All stupid idiots, French , American , Russia and Vietnamese and Chinese stop dominating Laos. Laos should be Laos and No Other to control and conquest Laos.
Stupid Mondulkiri started to insult the other "French and American master" when they return back with Vietnamese puppet and talked about the truth , he doesn't like it. All in his mind and what he has been taught only propaganda and hate . This is 21st century so every things are changed even your big master Soviet Empire still collapsed and the Berlin wall still was tron down . Communist China still turn to Capitalism. The true master is the money, idiot.
Thailand has been western influenced most of the 1900s and 2000s true or not?Where is the progress in siam? siam still has a huge amount of poor ie the Isaan people it has class wars the rich get richer the poor get poorer.American bases with white soldiers love siam hookers is this the capitalist freedom siam wanted from the west? A small amount get rich and that leaves everyone else where?
Siam is a perfect example of what laos would have been if the royals getting their strings pulled by the white man still went on. No morals no culture a huge rich poor gap and a fake royal class that just collects money and does nothing. Money is not the master of me money is not the master of regular lao people or khmer people regardless of party affiliation. Where in buddhist doctrine does it say money is the master of people? Your thinking is a result of the white man brainwashingand you display it perfectly. BTW im not religous in any way I follow my tribal religions.
also china is practicing socialism with chinese characteristics. An economy with state owned enterprise keeps socialism alive.
oh yea and ps theres no reason the poor have to hate america right? i guess you were missing when our lands were bombed to **** by whites who were dropping bombs to kill anyone communist or not. but still my family and i know laos doesnt hate america only america "hates" communists/socialists lol
lol the opening topic is so stupid as well. Do you know why south korea was able to rise after a war? Well gee maybe its because usa was pumping millions into it. What a naive fool. Little do people know north korea actually had a better economy during the70s and 80s until they had the great famine.
West germany also was pumped with millions from usa. usa left laos to rot after bombing it to crap killing communists and non communists indiscriminently.USA spent millions per day to bomb laos but has only done about 4 million worth of cleanup. Somehow you expected Lao pdr to advance laos to a state where laos never advanced to in its whole existence in about 40 years. Talk about unrealistic goals wow. Royal lao period was pumped with millions of corrupt american money and still sucked. It lowered Laos morals and standards and took a long time for the revolutionaries to fix such immoral people.
Thailand has been western influenced most of the 1900s and 2000s true or not?Where is the progress in siam? siam still has a huge amount of poor ie the Isaan people it has class wars the rich get richer the poor get poorer.American bases with white soldiers love siam hookers is this the capitalist freedom siam wanted from the west? A small amount get rich and that leaves everyone else where?
Siam is a perfect example of what Laos would have been if the royals getting their strings pulled by the white man still went on. No morals no culture a huge rich poor gap and a fake royal class that just collects money and does nothing. Money is not the master of me money is not the master of regular lao people or khmer people regardless of party affiliation. Where in buddhist doctrine does it say money is the master of people? Your thinking is a result of the white man brainwashing and you display it perfectly. BTW i'm not religious in any way I follow my tribal religions.
also china is practicing socialism with chinese characteristics. An economy with state owned enterprise keeps socialism alive.
oh yea and ps there's no reason the poor have to hate america right? i guess you were missing when our lands were bombed to **** by whites who were dropping bombs to kill anyone communist or not. but still my family and i know laos doesn't hate america only america "hates" communists/socialists lol
Why would you care about Thailand ? Believe it or not Thailand economic is better your master Vietnam and about 100 years ahead of Laos . Today 21st century Laos still does not have the railroad which Thailand already have for 100 years ago. Before you insult the other look of what you said first otherwise it will come right back at you. Soviet Union collapsed and Berlin wall was torn down and North Korean people are starving to death and Cuba is still under developed after many decades of revolution . The United States used to be number 1 Vietnam enemy now Vietnam asked the United States for protection against the Chinese in South China sea. China is large economy but poor capital only the communist party and their families and business associate have good living condition , 1 billion Chinese are still poor . So open your eyes , your ear and your mind and think and look around , how far the world has been changing . Worry about yourself and your family and your country first and never mind Thailand . Matter of fact without Thailand Laos would be in a lot of problem because almost every thing are import from Thailand such food , fuel ( gasoline oil ) , medicine and vaccine..etc .So learn how to get alone with your neighbor .
Why would you care about Thailand ? Believe it or not Thailand economic is better your master Vietnam and about 100 years ahead of Laos . Today 21st century Laos still does not have the railroad which Thailand already have for 100 years ago. Before you insult the other look of what you said first otherwise it will come right back at you. Soviet Union collapsed and Berlin wall was torn down and North Korean people are starving to death and Cuba is still under developed after many decades of revolution . The United States used to be number 1 Vietnam enemy now Vietnam asked the United States for protection against the Chinese in South China sea. China is large economy but poor capital only the communist party and their families and business associate have good living condition , 1 billion Chinese are still poor . So open your eyes , your ear and your mind and think and look around , how far the world has been changing . Worry about yourself and your family and your country first and never mind Thailand . Matter of fact without Thailand Laos would be in a lot of problem because almost every thing are import from Thailand such food , fuel ( gasoline oil ) , medicine and vaccine..etc .So learn how to get alone with your neighbor .
you said it nicely and i agree 100000000% million lao people still do not have toilet der.
Yea lol siam had a railroad 100 years ago and what were lao royals doing? taking kickbacks from their french masters the times you guys long to have back with your three head elephant flag haha. your points just ruined your own argument. laos no matter what type of government has never been equal to other nations.obvious reasons are because its size its population and location. laos had time under its "capitalist" ally usa to build schools to build the nation and it failed. hookers roamed the street of vte mass corruption was rampant this was the experiment with capitalism in laos and it did nothing.
hm north korea had a tremendous famine i dont think thats because of the government. north koreas economy was more advanced then south for a while even with americans pumping in those corrupt dollars.anyones economy can do good with america putting in billions oh wait thats right not laos. the people in the government were to obusy taking all that sweet american dollars the nation didnt even advance during then.
thailand usa and europe all those countries have wealth as result of stealing and taking from others. thailand stole from cambodia and laos and it got to where it is today. usa killed the nativ eamericans enslaved the blacks and caused wars all over the world. you have to take your blinders off. capitalism has caused way more death and destruction to others than socialism has. just because the white man tells you capitalism is best doesnt mean its true.
Yea lol siam had a railroad 100 years ago and what were lao royals doing? taking kickbacks from their french masters the times you guys long to have back with your three head elephant flag haha. your points just ruined your own argument. laos no matter what type of government has never been equal to other nations.obvious reasons are because its size its population and location. laos had time under its "capitalist" ally usa to build schools to build the nation and it failed. hookers roamed the street of vte mass corruption was rampant this was the experiment with capitalism in laos and it did nothing.
hm north korea had a tremendous famine i dont think thats because of the government. north koreas economy was more advanced then south for a while even with americans pumping in those corrupt dollars.anyones economy can do good with america putting in billions oh wait thats right not laos. the people in the government were to obusy taking all that sweet american dollars the nation didnt even advance during then.
thailand usa and europe all those countries have wealth as result of stealing and taking from others. thailand stole from cambodia and laos and it got to where it is today. usa killed the nativ eamericans enslaved the blacks and caused wars all over the world. you have to take your blinders off. capitalism has caused way more death and destruction to others than socialism has. just because the white man tells you capitalism is best doesnt mean its true.
If capitalism is bad why Lao government beg the foreign investors to come to invest in Laos , building hotel , factories and mall etc... Why communist China turn away from Mao philosophy and allow the American and European investors to build their factories in China . Vietnam also allow the United States Navy use Vietnam sea port and trade with US . Vietnam benefit with a lot of trade with the United States and her allies . So open your eyes , ear and your mind and see what are happening in the world . It is the dollars ,idiot that run the world.
thailand usa and europe all those countries have wealth as result of stealing and taking from others. thailand stole from cambodia and laos and it got to where it is today. usa killed the nativ eamericans enslaved the blacks and caused wars all over the world. you have to take your blinders off. capitalism has caused way more death and destruction to others than socialism has. just because the white man tells you capitalism is best doesnt mean its true.
the only thing to steal from laos is poverty and some where to take a s1th no paper to clean ass.
thailand usa and europe all those countries have wealth as result of stealing and taking from others. thailand stole from cambodia and laos and it got to where it is today. usa killed the nativ eamericans enslaved the blacks and caused wars all over the world. you have to take your blinders off. capitalism has caused way more death and destruction to others than socialism has. just because the white man tells you capitalism is best doesnt mean its true.
the only thing to steal from laos is poverty and some where to take a s1th no paper to clean ass.
Every body will steal any things from you if you are stupid and give them opportunity to do so.